Week 9 2020 · November 8, 2020
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Panthers at Chiefs, Week 9 2020: who deserved to win?
The Chiefs beat the Panthers 33–31, but it was a coin flip: replayed with the way both teams played, the Chiefs win 5 of 10. Luck ran their way: kicks alone were worth 1.7 points to the Chiefs.
The Chiefs won on an off day: their defense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Panthers they would win 76% of the time; with this day’s form, 45%. The numbers
Before kickoff the Chiefs were 77% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 0:02 left): J. Slye missed 67-yard field goal, worth 31 points of win probability to the Chiefs.
Final
| 31 | |
| 33 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +55 Chiefs lucky · −55 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Panthers win 5, Chiefs win 5.
- 1 CAR 42 KC 20
- 2 CAR 24 KC 10
- 3 CAR 37 KC 27
- 4 CAR 33 KC 27
- 5 CAR 16 KC 13
- 6 CAR 17 KC 20
- 7 CAR 28 KC 33
- 8 CAR 20 KC 28
- 9 CAR 13 KC 27
- 10 CAR 13 KC 34
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
The Chiefs won on an off day
Their defense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Panthers they would win 76% of the time; with this day’s form, 45%.
Same teams, fresh game
Replay with same day's form
30 points apart for the Chiefs: the gap is how differently this game went from what the two teams usually are.
| Unit | This game | Usual level | Better or worse than usual |
|---|---|---|---|
| Panthers offenseEPA per play gained | +0.32 | +0.10 | better by 0.22 |
| Panthers defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.27 | +0.16 | worse by 0.10 |
| Chiefs offenseEPA per play gained | +0.27 | +0.23 | better by 0.04 |
| Chiefs defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.32 | +0.10 | worse by 0.22 |
EPA (expected points added) per play on competitive snaps, turnovers left out because they are valued as luck. Usual level: the team’s earlier games this season plus half of last season, pulled toward the league average. One team’s defense and the other team’s offense are the same snaps, so one game can’t fully say whose day it was; it shows how far this one was from both teams’ norms.
How 4,000 replays ended
Panthers win 55% of them, Chiefs 45%, counting the 6% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Chiefs by 2.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Panthers by 17+ | 10.9% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 14.6% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 24.1% |
| Level after regulation | 5.9% |
| Chiefs by 1–8 | 22.0% |
| Chiefs by 9–16 | 13.2% |
| Chiefs by 17+ | 9.3% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Chiefs by 2. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Chiefs by 5.9.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- H. Butker, 39 yds made · 85% expected
- H. Butker, 55 yds made · 56% expected
- J. Slye, 47 yds made · 70% expected
- H. Butker, 48 yds missed · 70% expected
- J. Slye, 51 yds missed · 62% expected
- J. Slye, 67 yds missed · 39% expected
- Extra point missed · 93% expected
When it happened
Chiefs’ chance of winning
As low as 22% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 14:54 | The Panthers converted 4th & 73rd & 4th downs · 33% expected | +13% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 11:06 | H. Butker made 55-yard field goalKicks · 56% expected for him, 8 of 11 from 45+ before | +10% KC | KC: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 0:11 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Chiefs (Travis Kelce), 10 yardsJudgment calls · 9 flags in 1611 snaps before, position avg 1 per 276 | +13% CAR | CAR: Missed field goal |
| 4 | Q2 0:08 | Defensive Offside on the Panthers (Derrick Brown), 5 yards, wiping out the playPre-snap flags · 5 flags in 388 snaps before, position avg 1 per 262 | +10% CAR | KC: Turnover |
| 5 | Q3 6:09 | The Chiefs converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 39% expected | +19% KC | KC: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q3 2:58 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yardsJudgment calls | +9% KC | KC: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q4 13:09 | The Panthers converted 4th & 143rd & 4th downs · 21% expected | +10% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q4 0:02 | J. Slye missed 67-yard field goalKicks · 39% expected for him, 17 of 25 from 45+ before | +31% KC | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Mitchell Schwartz (KC T), out · 1.5 pts
- Sammy Watkins (KC WR), out · 0.8 pts
- Kelechi Osemele (KC G), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- L'Jarius Sneed (KC CB), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Russell Okung (CAR T), out · 0.9 pts
- Jeremy Chinn (CAR S), out · 0.8 pts
- Kawann Short (CAR DT), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Juston Burris (CAR S), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Panthers 27% · Chiefs 73%
- Final margin
- Chiefs by 2
- Luck in points
- 3.8 for the Panthers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Chiefs by 5.8
- Replay with same day's form
- Panthers 55% · Chiefs 45% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 9 2020 games ·
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