Week 9 2020 · November 8, 2020
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Panthers at Chiefs, Week 9 2020: who deserved to win?
The Chiefs beat the Panthers 33–31, but the replays call it close to a coin flip: with the way both teams played, the Chiefs win 5 of 10. Luck ran their way: kicks alone were worth 19 points of win probability to the Chiefs.
Before kickoff the Chiefs were 77% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 0:11 left): Offensive Pass Interference on the Chiefs (Travis Kelce), 10 yards, worth 13 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Final
| 31 | |
| 33 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +53 Chiefs lucky · −53 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Panthers win 5, Chiefs win 5.
- 1 CAR 45 KC 24
- 2 CAR 26 KC 13
- 3 CAR 29 KC 21
- 4 CAR 21 KC 17
- 5 CAR 31 KC 29
- 6 CAR 27 KC 30
- 7 CAR 31 KC 37
- 8 CAR 10 KC 19
- 9 CAR 12 KC 26
- 10 CAR 7 KC 30
Your call
Did the Chiefs earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Panthers win 53% of them, Chiefs 47%, counting the 6% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Chiefs by 2.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Panthers by 17+ | 10.8% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 14.8% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 22.9% |
| Level after regulation | 5.9% |
| Chiefs by 1–8 | 22.3% |
| Chiefs by 9–16 | 13.4% |
| Chiefs by 17+ | 10.1% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- H. Butker, 39 yds made · 86% expected
- H. Butker, 55 yds made · 58% expected
- J. Slye, 47 yds made · 70% expected
- H. Butker, 48 yds missed · 69% expected
- J. Slye, 51 yds missed · 61% expected
- J. Slye, 67 yds missed · 15% expected
- Extra point missed · 94% expected
Penalties: Panthers 12 for 82 yards, Chiefs 8 for 75 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 13:47 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Chiefs (Chris Jones), 5 yards | 0% CAR +0.3 pts |
| Q1 9:02 | Defensive Holding on the Chiefs, 5 yards | +1% CAR +0.7 pts |
| Q1 8:08 | False Start on the Panthers (Robbie Chosen), 5 yards · pre-snap | +4% KC +0.6 pts |
| Q1 3:37 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Panthers (Rasul Douglas), 15 yards | +6% KC +1.5 pts |
| Q2 10:20 | Illegal Formation on the Panthers (Curtis Samuel), 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% KC +0.6 pts |
| Q2 8:48 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Panthers (Curtis Samuel), 10 yards, wiping out the play | +3% KC +1.7 pts |
| Q2 1:19 | Roughing the Passer on the Chiefs (Chris Jones), 15 yards | +7% CAR +0.9 pts |
| Q2 0:11 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Chiefs (Travis Kelce), 10 yards | +13% CAR +0.5 pts |
| Q2 0:08 | Defensive Offside on the Panthers (Derrick Brown), 5 yards, wiping out the play · pre-snap | +10% CAR +2.5 pts |
| Q3 15:00 | Defensive Holding on the Panthers (Derrick Brown), 5 yards | +3% KC +0.7 pts |
| Q3 3:20 | Face Mask on the Chiefs, 15 yards | +8% CAR +1.8 pts |
| Q3 2:58 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards | +9% KC +1.3 pts |
| Q4 15:00 | Defensive Offside on the Panthers (Brian Burns), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% KC +0.5 pts |
| Q4 14:23 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Chiefs, 15 yards | +2% CAR +1.4 pts |
| Q4 14:23 | Offside on Free Kick on the Chiefs, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% CAR +0.5 pts |
| Q4 10:22 | Illegal Touch Kick on the Panthers, 5 yards | +1% KC +0.5 pts |
| Q4 8:09 | Defensive Offside on the Panthers (Donte Jackson), 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% KC +0.8 pts |
| Q4 8:03 | Defensive Holding on the Panthers (Jermaine Carter Jr.), 2 yards | +1% KC +0.6 pts |
| Q4 1:10 | Defensive Holding on the Chiefs (Tyrann Mathieu), 5 yards | +3% KC 0.0 pts |
| Q4 1:05 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Panthers, 10 yards | +8% KC +0.4 pts |
Panthers penalties, every game · Chiefs penalties, every game · All teams, 2020
When it happened
Chiefs’ chance of winning
As low as 22% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 14:54 | The Panthers converted 4th & 73rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +11% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 11:06 | H. Butker made a 55-yard field goalKicks · 58% expected for him, 8 of 11 from 45+ before | +10% KC | KC: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 0:11 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Chiefs (Travis Kelce), 10 yardsJudgment calls · 9 flags in 1611 snaps before, position avg 1 per 276 | +13% CAR | CAR: Missed field goal |
| 4 | Q2 0:08 | Defensive Offside on the Panthers (Derrick Brown), 5 yards, wiping out the playPre-snap flags · 5 flags in 388 snaps before, position avg 1 per 262 | +10% CAR | KC: Turnover |
| 5 | Q3 6:09 | The Chiefs converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 41% expected | +10% KC | KC: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q3 2:58 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yardsJudgment calls | +9% KC | KC: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q4 13:09 | The Panthers converted 4th & 143rd & 4th downs · 23% expected | +10% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q4 0:02 | J. Slye missed a 67-yard field goalKicks · 15% expected for him, 17 of 25 from 45+ before | +12% KC | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Mitchell Schwartz (KC T), out · 1.5 pts
- Sammy Watkins (KC WR), out · 0.8 pts
- Kelechi Osemele (KC G), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- L'Jarius Sneed (KC CB), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Russell Okung (CAR T), out · 0.9 pts
- Jeremy Chinn (CAR S), out · 0.8 pts
- Kawann Short (CAR DT), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Juston Burris (CAR S), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Panthers 13% · Chiefs 87%
- Final margin
- Chiefs by 2
- Luck in points
- 5.8 for the Panthers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Chiefs by 7.8
- Replay with same day's form
- Panthers 53% · Chiefs 47% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 9 2020 games ·
Panthers ·
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