Week 2 2023 · September 17, 2023
Packers at Falcons, Week 2 2023: who deserved to win?
The Falcons beat the Packers 25–24, but the Packers played well enough to win it: they take 6 of 10 replays with the same day's form. Luck ran their way: 3rd & 4th downs alone were worth 2.2 points to the Falcons.
Before kickoff the Falcons were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 8:16 left): M. Hollins dropped a catchable pass, worth 22 points of win probability to the Packers.
Final
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Replay with same day's form
Luck index +62 Falcons very lucky · −62 Packers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Packers win 6, Falcons win 4.
- 1 GB 40 ATL 13
- 2 GB 30 ATL 13
- 3 GB 23 ATL 10
- 4 GB 33 ATL 24
- 5 GB 21 ATL 16
- 6 GB 30 ATL 27
- 7 GB 24 ATL 27
- 8 GB 17 ATL 23
- 9 GB 14 ATL 24
- 10 GB 7 ATL 26
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Packers win 62% of them, Falcons 38%, counting the 3% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Falcons by 1.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Packers by 17+ | 16.7% |
| Packers by 9–16 | 20.1% |
| Packers by 1–8 | 24.3% |
| Level after regulation | 2.5% |
| Falcons by 1–8 | 20.5% |
| Falcons by 9–16 | 11.0% |
| Falcons by 17+ | 5.0% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Falcons by 1. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Falcons by 9.2.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- Y. Koo, 24 yds made · 100% expected
- A. Carlson, 33 yds made · 94% expected
- Y. Koo, 33 yds made · 95% expected
- Y. Koo, 39 yds made · 89% expected
- Y. Koo, 25 yds made · 99% expected
- Extra point missed · 93% expected
When it happened
Falcons’ chance of winning
As low as 11% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 15:00 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Falcons (AJ Terrell), 44 yardsJudgment calls · 11 flags in 2958 snaps before, position avg 1 per 216 | +10% GB | GB: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 1:36 | The Packers converted 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 74% expected | +9% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 0:47 | The Packers converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +10% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q2 12:04 | The Falcons converted 3rd & 153rd & 4th downs · 20% expected | +8% ATL | ATL: Turnover on downs |
| 5 | Q4 11:54 | The Falcons converted 4th & 43rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +11% ATL | ATL: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q4 8:16 | The Falcons were stopped on 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 33% expectedM. Hollins dropped a catchable passDrops · 6 drops on 72 catchable balls before this | +22% GB | ATL: Field goal |
| 7 | Q4 2:08 | The Falcons converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 73% expected | +12% ATL | ATL: Field goal |
| 8 | Q4 0:42 | The Packers were stopped on 4th & 103rd & 4th downs · 27% expected | +17% ATL | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Matt Hennessy (ATL C), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Troy Andersen (ATL LB), out · 0.2 pts
- Adetokunbo Ogundeji (ATL LB), out (IR) · 0.1 pts
- David Bakhtiari (GB T), out · 1.4 pts
- Christian Watson (GB WR), out · 0.8 pts
- Aaron Jones (GB RB), out · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Packers 4% · Falcons 96%
- Final margin
- Falcons by 1
- Luck in points
- 8.2 for the Packers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Falcons by 9.2
- Replay with same day's form
- Packers 62% · Falcons 38% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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