Week 2 2023 · September 17, 2023
Seahawks at Lions, Week 2 2023: who deserved to win?
The Seahawks beat the Lions 37–31 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 7 of 10. The Lions had the bounces: kicks alone were worth 7.1 points to the Lions.
Before kickoff the Lions were 63% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 8:14 left): Return touchdown by the Seahawks, worth 34 points of win probability to the Seahawks.
Final (OT)
| 37 | |
| 31 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +33 Seahawks lucky · −33 Lions
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Seahawks win 7, Lions win 3.
- 1 SEA 41 DET 13
- 2 SEA 41 DET 23
- 3 SEA 36 DET 21
- 4 SEA 50 DET 39
- 5 SEA 41 DET 34
- 6 SEA 45 DET 41
- 7 SEA 26 DET 24
- 8 SEA 28 DET 31
- 9 SEA 9 DET 17
- 10 SEA 16 DET 33
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Seahawks win 67% of them, Lions 33%, counting the 4% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Seahawks by 6.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Seahawks by 17+ | 23.5% |
| Seahawks by 9–16 | 19.6% |
| Seahawks by 1–8 | 23.8% |
| Level after regulation | 4.0% |
| Lions by 1–8 | 15.4% |
| Lions by 9–16 | 8.9% |
| Lions by 17+ | 4.9% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Seahawks by 6. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Seahawks by 12.3.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- J. Myers, 45 yds missed · 85% expected
- J. Myers, 56 yds missed · 66% expected
- J. Myers, 25 yds made · 98% expected
- R. Patterson, 38 yds made · 91% expected
When it happened
Lions’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 84%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 9:28 | The Seahawks converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 33% expected | +10% SEA | SEA: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 7:42 | J. Myers missed 45-yard field goalKicks · 85% expected for him, 26 of 34 from 45+ before | +10% DET | SEA: Punt |
| 3 | Q3 13:04 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Lions (Josh Reynolds), 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 5 flags in 2587 snaps before, position avg 1 per 420 | +9% SEA | SEA: Field goal |
| 4 | Q4 12:01 | The Seahawks converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +9% SEA | SEA: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q4 8:14 | The Lions threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 46% expected to stay out of the defense's handsReturn touchdown by the SeahawksSpecial teams | +34% SEA | DET: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q4 2:17 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Seahawks (Colby Parkinson), 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 3 flags in 1153 snaps before, position avg 1 per 286 | +19% DET | DET: Field goal |
| 7 | Q4 0:23 | The Lions were stopped on 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 37% expected | +15% SEA | DET: Field goal |
| 8 | QOT 8:35 | The Seahawks converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 38% expected | +23% SEA | SEA: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Taylor Decker (DET T), out · 1.1 pts
- Isaiah Buggs (DET DT), out · 0.2 pts
- Charles Cross (SEA T), out · 1.0 pts
- Abraham Lucas (SEA T), out (IR) · 0.8 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Seahawks 94% · Lions 6%
- Final margin
- Seahawks by 6
- Luck in points
- 6.3 for the Lions
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Seahawks by 12.3
- Replay with same day's form
- Seahawks 67% · Lions 33% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 2 2023 games ·
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