Week 2 2024 · September 15, 2024
Chargers at Panthers, Week 2 2024: who deserved to win?
The Chargers beat the Panthers 26–3, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Chargers win 10 of 10. The Panthers had the bounces: drops alone were worth 1.9 points to the Panthers.
Before kickoff the Chargers were 64% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 9:26 left): the Chargers converted 3rd & 10, worth 12 points of win probability to the Chargers.
Final
| 26 | |
| 3 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +2 Chargers about even · −2 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Chargers win 10, Panthers win 0.
- 1 LAC 39 CAR 3
- 2 LAC 31 CAR 3
- 3 LAC 37 CAR 13
- 4 LAC 30 CAR 10
- 5 LAC 27 CAR 9
- 6 LAC 25 CAR 10
- 7 LAC 19 CAR 6
- 8 LAC 23 CAR 13
- 9 LAC 13 CAR 6
- 10 LAC 13 CAR 10
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Chargers win 98% of them, Panthers 2%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Chargers by 23.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Chargers by 17+ | 76.2% |
| Chargers by 9–16 | 15.5% |
| Chargers by 1–8 | 6.0% |
| Level after regulation | 0.6% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 1.4% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 0.3% |
| Panthers by 17+ | 0.0% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Chargers by 23. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Chargers by 16.8.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- E. Pineiro, 38 yds made · 89% expected
- C. Dicker, 46 yds made · 78% expected
- C. Dicker, 42 yds made · 83% expected
- Extra point missed · 93% expected
When it happened
Panthers’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 57%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:35 | The Chargers converted 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 58% expected | +5% LAC | LAC: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q1 12:12 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Panthers (Jadeveon Clowney), 5 yardsJudgment calls · 26 flags in 3219 snaps before, position avg 1 per 445 | +5% LAC | LAC: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 9:32 | E. Tomlinson dropped a catchable passDrops · 0 drops on 10 catchable balls before this | +5% CAR | LAC: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q1 9:26 | The Chargers converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 26% expected | +12% LAC | LAC: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q1 7:49 | The Chargers threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 47% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +5% CAR | LAC: Punt |
| 6 | Q1 6:22 | The Panthers were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +5% LAC | CAR: Punt |
| 7 | Q1 5:06 | Fair Catch Interference on the Panthers (Lonnie Johnson Jr.), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 19 flags in 3006 snaps before, position avg 1 per 530 | +4% LAC | LAC: Punt |
| 8 | Q2 3:30 | The Panthers threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 47% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +4% LAC | CAR: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Derrick Brown (CAR DT), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Alohi Gilman (LAC SS), out · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Chargers 100% · Panthers 0%
- Final margin
- Chargers by 23
- Luck in points
- 6.2 for the Chargers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Chargers by 16.8
- Replay with same day's form
- Chargers 98% · Panthers 2% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 2 2024 games ·
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