Week 6 2024 · October 10, 2024
49ers at Seahawks, Week 6 2024: who deserved to win?
The 49ers beat the Seahawks 36–24, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the 49ers win 10 of 10. The Seahawks had the bounces: 3rd & 4th downs alone were worth 4.1 points to the Seahawks.
An off day for the Seahawks: their defense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the 49ers they would win 33% of the time; with this day’s form, 2%. The numbers
Before kickoff the 49ers were 60% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 4:46 left): Illegal Shift on the Seahawks, 5 yards, wiping out the play, worth 16 points of win probability to the 49ers.
Final
| 36 | |
| 24 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +2 49ers about even · −2 Seahawks
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. 49ers win 10, Seahawks win 0.
- 1 SF 55 SEA 14
- 2 SF 47 SEA 14
- 3 SF 44 SEA 16
- 4 SF 40 SEA 16
- 5 SF 31 SEA 10
- 6 SF 41 SEA 23
- 7 SF 34 SEA 20
- 8 SF 41 SEA 29
- 9 SF 19 SEA 10
- 10 SF 31 SEA 27
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
An off day for the Seahawks
Their defense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the 49ers they would win 33% of the time; with this day’s form, 2%.
Same teams, fresh game
Replay with same day's form
31 points apart for the Seahawks: the gap is how differently this game went from what the two teams usually are.
| Unit | This game | Usual level | Better or worse than usual |
|---|---|---|---|
| 49ers offenseEPA per play gained | +0.27 | +0.20 | better by 0.07 |
| 49ers defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.02 | +0.08 | better by 0.06 |
| Seahawks offenseEPA per play gained | +0.02 | +0.09 | worse by 0.07 |
| Seahawks defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.27 | +0.09 | worse by 0.18 |
EPA (expected points added) per play on competitive snaps, turnovers left out because they are valued as luck. Usual level: the team’s earlier games this season plus half of last season, pulled toward the league average. One team’s defense and the other team’s offense are the same snaps, so one game can’t fully say whose day it was; it shows how far this one was from both teams’ norms.
How 4,000 replays ended
49ers win 98% of them, Seahawks 2%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: 49ers by 12.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| 49ers by 17+ | 79.4% |
| 49ers by 9–16 | 12.8% |
| 49ers by 1–8 | 5.5% |
| Level after regulation | 0.8% |
| Seahawks by 1–8 | 1.2% |
| Seahawks by 9–16 | 0.4% |
| Seahawks by 17+ | 0.0% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was 49ers by 12. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes 49ers by 15.3.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- M. Wright, 25 yds made · 98% expected
- M. Wright, 41 yds made · 85% expected
- M. Wright, 35 yds made · 92% expected
- J. Myers, 20 yds made · 99% expected
When it happened
Seahawks’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 64%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:33 | The Seahawks converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 34% expected | +10% SEA | SEA: Turnover |
| 2 | Q1 11:33 | The Seahawks were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 38% expectedThe Seahawks threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 52% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +14% SF | SEA: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 8:00 | The 49ers converted 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 78% expected | +5% SF | SF: Field goal |
| 4 | Q3 8:25 | Offensive Holding on the 49ers, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +4% SEA | SEA: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q3 5:50 | The Seahawks converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 29% expected | +6% SEA | SEA: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q4 12:38 | Illegal Shift on the 49ers, 5 yardsPre-snap flags | +4% SEA | SEA: Turnover |
| 7 | Q4 8:11 | Offensive Holding on the Seahawks (AJ Barner), 10 yardsJudgment calls · 1 flag in 170 snaps before, position avg 1 per 280 | +4% SF | SF: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q4 4:46 | Illegal Shift on the Seahawks, 5 yards, wiping out the playPre-snap flags | +16% SF | SF: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Riq Woolen (SEA CB), out · 0.9 pts
- Abraham Lucas (SEA T), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Christian McCaffrey (SF RB), out (IR) · 0.8 pts
- Charvarius Ward (SF CB), out · 0.6 pts
- Javon Hargrave (SF DT), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Talanoa Hufanga (SF SS), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Dre Greenlaw (SF LB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Jake Moody (SF K), out · 0.3 pts
- Jon Feliciano (SF C), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Ambry Thomas (SF CB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
49ers 99% · Seahawks 1%
- Final margin
- 49ers by 12
- Luck in points
- 3.3 for the Seahawks
- Luck-adjusted margin
- 49ers by 15.3
- Replay with same day's form
- 49ers 98% · Seahawks 2% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 6 2024 games ·
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