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Week 8 2024 · October 27, 2024

Chiefs at Raiders, Week 8 2024: who deserved to win?

The Chiefs beat the Raiders 27–20, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Chiefs win 9 of 10. The Raiders had the bounces: judgment calls alone were worth 3.0 points to the Raiders.

Before kickoff the Chiefs were 75% favorites. The biggest swing (Q3, 3:31 left): the Raiders were stopped on 4th & 3, worth 15 points of win probability to the Chiefs.

Final

Kansas City Chiefs 27
Las Vegas Raiders 20

October 27, 2024 · Allegiant Stadium · Closing line: Chiefs −9

Luck index +7 Chiefs about even · −7 Raiders

Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works

Ten replays. Chiefs win 9, Raiders win 1.

  1. 1 KC 28 LV 0
  2. 2 KC 36 LV 13
  3. 3 KC 27 LV 9
  4. 4 KC 17 LV 3
  5. 5 KC 16 LV 3
  6. 6 KC 16 LV 6
  7. 7 KC 20 LV 13
  8. 8 KC 20 LV 16
  9. 9 KC 13 LV 10
  10. 10 KC 21 LV 27

Three other ways to ask

Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.

The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.

The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.

Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.

How 4,000 replays ended

Chiefs win 93% of them, Raiders 7%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Chiefs by 7.

Show as a table
Final margin in the replaysShare of replays
Chiefs by 17+51.1%
Chiefs by 9–1624.5%
Chiefs by 1–817.1%
Level after regulation1.5%
Raiders by 1–84.4%
Raiders by 9–161.3%
Raiders by 17+0.2%

Where the luck was

Take the luck out

The final margin was Chiefs by 7. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Chiefs by 8.3.

Each row takes one kind of luck out of the margin. Color shows which team it helped. Luck shares are the fitted ones (how much of each component is luck).

The kicks

How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.

  • D. Carlson, 54 yds made · 72% expected
  • H. Butker, 42 yds made · 88% expected
  • D. Carlson, 32 yds made · 96% expected
  • H. Butker, 24 yds made · 100% expected
Bar: expected chance of a make. Filled dot: made. Open dot: missed or blocked.

When it happened

Raiders’ chance of winning

As low as 0% and as high as 69%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.

nflfastR’s in-game win probability. It ignores the betting line, so it starts near even. Shaded above the middle while the Raiders were ahead in it, below while the Chiefs were.
#WhenWhat happenedWin probability forNext drive
1 Q1 11:16 The Chiefs converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 42% expected +8% KC KC: Touchdown
2 Q1 1:19 The Chiefs were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 42% expected +8% LV KC: Punt
3 Q2 2:00 The Chiefs converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 34% expected +8% KC KC: Touchdown
4 Q2 0:41 The Chiefs fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 +8% KC KC: Field goal
5 Q3 8:58 The Raiders converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 25% expected +9% LV LV: Field goal
6 Q3 5:49 The Chiefs threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 51% expected to stay out of the defense's hands +8% LV KC: Field goal
7 Q3 3:31 The Raiders were stopped on 4th & 33rd & 4th downs · 38% expected +15% KC LV: Turnover
8 Q4 12:44 The Chiefs converted 3rd & 123rd & 4th downs · 26% expected +10% KC KC: Field goal

Missing players

Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.

  • Christian Wilkins (LV DT), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
  • Dylan Parham (LV G), out · 0.4 pts
  • Michael Mayer (LV TE), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
  • Marcus Epps (LV SS), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
  • Rashee Rice (KC WR), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
  • Jaylen Watson (KC CB), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
  • Michael Danna (KC DE), out · 0.5 pts
  • Isiah Pacheco (KC RB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts

Adjust the assumptions

Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.

Only coin-flips re-rolled

Chiefs 89% · Raiders 11%

Final margin
Chiefs by 7
Luck in points
1.3 for the Raiders
Luck-adjusted margin
Chiefs by 8.3
Replay with same day's form
Chiefs 93% · Raiders 7% unchanged: why
How much of each is luck?

0% treats it as skill, 100% as pure luck. The tick is our fit.

What counts

We tested momentum on 19,000 lucky breaks and found none, so it's off by default. Why

Flip a play

Force the other outcome, in this game and in every replay: a made kick becomes a miss, a stop becomes a conversion, a flag goes the other way.

About these numbers

Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.

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