Week 8 2024 · October 27, 2024
Titans at Lions, Week 8 2024: who deserved to win?
The Lions beat the Titans 52–14, and the replays back it up: with the way both teams actually played, the Lions win 8 of 10.
Before kickoff the Lions were 82% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 1:30 left): Offensive Holding on the Titans, 10 yards, wiping out the play, worth 10 points of win probability to the Lions.
Final
| 14 | |
| 52 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +19 Lions about even · −19 Titans
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Titans win 2, Lions win 8.
- 1 TEN 26 DET 10
- 2 TEN 40 DET 36
- 3 TEN 22 DET 24
- 4 TEN 23 DET 29
- 5 TEN 17 DET 26
- 6 TEN 19 DET 31
- 7 TEN 42 DET 56
- 8 TEN 6 DET 24
- 9 TEN 20 DET 44
- 10 TEN 9 DET 42
Your call
Did the Lions earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Titans win 19% of them, Lions 81%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Lions by 38.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Titans by 17+ | 3.1% |
| Titans by 9–16 | 5.4% |
| Titans by 1–8 | 10.7% |
| Level after regulation | 2.1% |
| Lions by 1–8 | 17.3% |
| Lions by 9–16 | 19.6% |
| Lions by 17+ | 42.0% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
Penalties: Titans 7 for 55 yards, Lions 3 for 29 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 10:59 | Face Mask on the Titans (Arden Key), 7 yards | +3% DET +0.6 pts |
| Q1 3:16 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Titans (Chigoziem Okonkwo), 10 yards, wiping out the play | +5% DET +1.7 pts |
| Q1 1:30 | Offensive Holding on the Titans, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +10% DET +3.4 pts |
| Q2 12:58 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Titans (Jarvis Brownlee), 8 yards | +5% DET +1.8 pts |
| Q2 11:37 | False Start on the Titans, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% DET +0.6 pts |
| Q2 7:55 | Offensive Holding on the Titans, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +6% DET +2.8 pts |
| Q2 2:12 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Lions (Brian Branch), 13 yards | +1% TEN +0.6 pts |
| Q2 0:37 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Lions (Brian Branch), 6 yards | +1% TEN +0.7 pts |
| Q3 15:00 | Illegal Formation on the Titans, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% DET +0.5 pts |
| Q3 5:25 | Offensive Holding on the Lions (Jalen Reeves-Maybin), 10 yards | 0% TEN +0.9 pts |
Titans penalties, every game · Lions penalties, every game · All teams, 2024
When it happened
Lions’ chance of winning
As low as 49% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:10 | The Titans fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +6% TEN | TEN: Turnover |
| 2 | Q1 11:07 | The Titans threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · defenses catch 56% of interception-worthy throws | +4% DET | TEN: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 3:16 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Titans (Chigoziem Okonkwo), 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 9 flags in 1653 snaps before, position avg 1 per 280 | +5% DET | DET: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q1 1:30 | Offensive Holding on the Titans, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +10% DET | DET: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q2 12:58 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Titans (Jarvis Brownlee), 8 yardsJudgment calls · 1 flag in 289 snaps before, position avg 1 per 215 | +5% DET | DET: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q2 12:51 | The Titans threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · defenses catch 56% of interception-worthy throws | +3% DET | TEN: Punt |
| 7 | Q2 7:55 | Offensive Holding on the Titans, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +6% DET | DET: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q3 13:05 | Return touchdown by the LionsSpecial teams | +4% DET | DET: Opp touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Aidan Hutchinson (DET DE), out (IR) · 1.1 pts
- Jameson Williams (DET WR), out (IR) · 0.8 pts
- Ifeatu Melifonwu (DET CB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- John Cominsky (DET DE), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Derrick Barnes (DET LB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Marcus Davenport (DET LB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- L'Jarius Sneed (TEN CB), out · 0.7 pts
- Nicholas Petit-Frere (TEN T), out · 0.7 pts
- Chidobe Awuzie (TEN CB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Treylon Burks (TEN WR), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Titans 0% · Lions 100%
- Final margin
- Lions by 38
- Luck in points
- 13.2 for the Lions
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Lions by 24.8
- Replay with same day's form
- Titans 19% · Lions 81% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 8 2024 games ·
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