Week 8 2024 · October 27, 2024
Titans at Lions, Week 8 2024: who deserved to win?
The Lions beat the Titans 52–14 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 6 of 10.
Before kickoff the Lions were 82% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 1:30 left): Offensive Holding on the Titans, 10 yards, wiping out the play, worth 10 points of win probability to the Lions.
Final
| 14 | |
| 52 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +36 Lions lucky · −36 Titans
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Titans win 4, Lions win 6.
- 1 TEN 31 DET 10
- 2 TEN 38 DET 26
- 3 TEN 22 DET 15
- 4 TEN 16 DET 13
- 5 TEN 18 DET 20
- 6 TEN 33 DET 38
- 7 TEN 30 DET 40
- 8 TEN 16 DET 30
- 9 TEN 12 DET 30
- 10 TEN 21 DET 48
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Titans win 36% of them, Lions 64%, counting the 3% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Lions by 38.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Titans by 17+ | 7.0% |
| Titans by 9–16 | 9.3% |
| Titans by 1–8 | 16.5% |
| Level after regulation | 3.2% |
| Lions by 1–8 | 21.2% |
| Lions by 9–16 | 17.0% |
| Lions by 17+ | 25.8% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Lions by 38. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Lions by 22.8.
When it happened
Lions’ chance of winning
As low as 49% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:10 | The Titans fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +6% TEN | TEN: Turnover |
| 2 | Q1 11:07 | The Titans threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 51% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +5% DET | TEN: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 3:16 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Titans (Chigoziem Okonkwo), 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 9 flags in 1653 snaps before, position avg 1 per 280 | +5% DET | DET: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q1 1:30 | Offensive Holding on the Titans, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +10% DET | DET: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q2 12:58 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Titans (Jarvis Brownlee), 8 yardsJudgment calls · 1 flag in 289 snaps before, position avg 1 per 215 | +5% DET | DET: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q2 9:22 | The Titans converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 69% expected | +4% TEN | TEN: Punt |
| 7 | Q2 7:55 | Offensive Holding on the Titans, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +6% DET | DET: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q3 13:05 | Return touchdown by the LionsSpecial teams | +4% DET | DET: Opp touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Aidan Hutchinson (DET DE), out (IR) · 1.1 pts
- Jameson Williams (DET WR), out (IR) · 0.8 pts
- Ifeatu Melifonwu (DET CB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- John Cominsky (DET DE), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Derrick Barnes (DET LB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Marcus Davenport (DET LB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- L'Jarius Sneed (TEN CB), out · 0.7 pts
- Nicholas Petit-Frere (TEN T), out · 0.7 pts
- Chidobe Awuzie (TEN CB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Treylon Burks (TEN WR), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Titans 0% · Lions 100%
- Final margin
- Lions by 38
- Luck in points
- 15.2 for the Lions
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Lions by 22.8
- Replay with same day's form
- Titans 36% · Lions 64% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 8 2024 games ·
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