Week 8 2024 · October 27, 2024
Bills at Seahawks, Week 8 2024: who deserved to win?
The Bills beat the Seahawks 31–10, and the replays back it up: with the way both teams actually played, the Bills win 10 of 10.
Before kickoff the Bills were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 2:55 left): the Bills fumbled and recovered it themselves, worth 13 points of win probability to the Bills.
Final
| 31 | |
| 10 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +3 Bills about even · −3 Seahawks
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Bills win 10, Seahawks win 0.
- 1 BUF 36 SEA 0
- 2 BUF 35 SEA 6
- 3 BUF 27 SEA 3
- 4 BUF 24 SEA 3
- 5 BUF 24 SEA 6
- 6 BUF 37 SEA 21
- 7 BUF 20 SEA 7
- 8 BUF 30 SEA 20
- 9 BUF 27 SEA 20
- 10 BUF 24 SEA 21
Your call
Did the Bills earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Bills win 97% of them, Seahawks 3%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Bills by 21.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Bills by 17+ | 71.4% |
| Bills by 9–16 | 18.4% |
| Bills by 1–8 | 7.2% |
| Level after regulation | 0.6% |
| Seahawks by 1–8 | 1.8% |
| Seahawks by 9–16 | 0.5% |
| Seahawks by 17+ | 0.1% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- J. Myers, 38 yds made · 88% expected
- T. Bass, 27 yds made · 96% expected
Penalties: Bills 13 for 85 yards, Seahawks 11 for 82 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 14:10 | Illegal Blindside Block on the Bills, 9 yards | +2% SEA +0.8 pts |
| Q1 12:39 | Offensive Holding on the Bills, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +8% SEA +2.6 pts |
| Q1 10:48 | False Start on the Bills, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% SEA +0.7 pts |
| Q1 10:28 | Illegal Contact on the Seahawks (Devon Witherspoon), 5 yards, wiping out the play | +8% BUF +2.4 pts |
| Q1 8:37 | Offensive Holding on the Bills, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +5% SEA +1.7 pts |
| Q1 1:16 | False Start on the Bills, 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% SEA +0.6 pts |
| Q1 0:18 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Seahawks, 4 yards | +1% BUF +0.7 pts |
| Q2 11:13 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the Bills (DaQuan Jones), 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% SEA +0.4 pts |
| Q2 9:05 | Delay of Game on the Seahawks, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% BUF +0.4 pts |
| Q2 4:05 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Bills (Keon Coleman), 4 yards, wiping out the play | +8% SEA +2.3 pts |
| Q2 0:38 | Roughing the Passer on the Seahawks, 12 yards | +3% BUF +1.5 pts |
| Q3 14:54 | Offensive Holding on the Bills, 10 yards | +3% SEA +1.2 pts |
| Q3 9:40 | Delay of Game on the Bills, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% SEA +0.7 pts |
| Q3 8:28 | Illegal Contact on the Bills (Christian Benford), 5 yards | +1% SEA +0.8 pts |
| Q3 1:16 | Offensive Holding on the Seahawks, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +1% BUF +2.7 pts |
| Q3 0:58 | False Start on the Seahawks, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% BUF +0.4 pts |
| Q3 0:46 | Taunting on the Seahawks (Geno Smith), 10 yards | 0% BUF +0.5 pts |
| Q4 12:25 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Seahawks (Riq Woolen), 11 yards | 0% BUF +0.7 pts |
| Q4 11:38 | Encroachment on the Seahawks (Johnathan Hankins), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% BUF +0.3 pts |
| Q4 8:10 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Bills (Damar Hamlin), 2 yards | 0% SEA +0.8 pts |
| Q4 8:02 | Offensive Holding on the Bills, 10 yards | 0% SEA +0.9 pts |
| Q4 7:49 | False Start on the Bills, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% SEA +0.8 pts |
| Q4 7:37 | Tripping on the Seahawks (Jerrick Reed), 10 yards | 0% BUF +0.9 pts |
| Q4 5:15 | Delay of Game on the Seahawks, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% SEA +0.2 pts |
Bills penalties, every game · Seahawks penalties, every game · All teams, 2024
When it happened
Seahawks’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 56%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 12:39 | Offensive Holding on the Bills, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +8% SEA | SEA: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 10:28 | Illegal Contact on the Seahawks (Devon Witherspoon), 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 9 flags in 1359 snaps before, position avg 1 per 215 | +8% BUF | BUF: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 6:46 | The Bills converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 37% expected | +8% BUF | BUF: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q1 1:16 | K. Coleman dropped a catchable passDrops · 1 drops on 24 catchable balls before thisFalse Start on the Bills, 5 yardsPre-snap flags | +6% SEA | BUF: Punt |
| 5 | Q2 9:51 | The Seahawks fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +6% SEA | SEA: Field goal |
| 6 | Q2 4:46 | The Seahawks were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 68% expected | +10% BUF | SEA: End of half |
| 7 | Q2 4:05 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Bills (Keon Coleman), 4 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 1 flag in 272 snaps before, position avg 1 per 409 | +8% SEA | SEA: End of half |
| 8 | Q2 2:55 | The Bills converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 47% expectedThe Bills fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +13% BUF | BUF: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Rayshawn Jenkins (SEA SS), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Stone Forsythe (SEA T), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Tre Brown (SEA CB), out · 0.2 pts
- Terrel Bernard (BUF LB), out · 0.5 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Bills 100% · Seahawks 0%
- Final margin
- Bills by 21
- Luck in points
- 2.1 for the Bills
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Bills by 18.9
- Replay with same day's form
- Bills 97% · Seahawks 3% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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