Week 5 2019 · October 6, 2019
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Buccaneers at Saints, Week 5 2019: who deserved to win?
The Saints beat the Buccaneers 31–24, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Saints win 9 of 10. The Buccaneers had the bounces: judgment calls alone were worth 4.6 points to the Buccaneers.
Before kickoff the Saints were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 1:13 left): the Saints were stopped on 3rd & 8, worth 15 points of win probability to the Buccaneers.
Final
| 24 | |
| 31 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +15 Saints about even · −15 Buccaneers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Buccaneers win 1, Saints win 9.
- 1 TB 30 NO 23
- 2 TB 23 NO 25
- 3 TB 27 NO 32
- 4 TB 31 NO 38
- 5 TB 10 NO 21
- 6 TB 13 NO 27
- 7 TB 20 NO 37
- 8 TB 0 NO 20
- 9 TB 14 NO 38
- 10 TB 10 NO 41
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Buccaneers win 15% of them, Saints 85%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Saints by 7.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Buccaneers by 17+ | 1.3% |
| Buccaneers by 9–16 | 3.5% |
| Buccaneers by 1–8 | 9.0% |
| Level after regulation | 1.5% |
| Saints by 1–8 | 19.9% |
| Saints by 9–16 | 22.9% |
| Saints by 17+ | 41.9% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Saints by 7. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Saints by 11.7.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- W. Lutz, 29 yds made · 97% expected
- M. Gay, 42 yds made · 86% expected
When it happened
Saints’ chance of winning
As low as 44% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 5:50 | The Saints converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 74% expected | +5% NO | NO: Field goal |
| 2 | Q1 1:13 | The Saints were stopped on 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 32% expected | +15% TB | NO: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 13:35 | The Saints converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 35% expected | +10% NO | NO: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q2 7:07 | The Buccaneers fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +8% TB | TB: Field goal |
| 5 | Q3 11:50 | Defensive Holding on the Saints (A.J. Klein), 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 0 flags in 279 snaps before, position avg 1 per 393 | +8% TB | TB: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q3 8:18 | The Buccaneers converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 73% expected | +5% TB | TB: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q3 5:06 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 52% expected | +6% TB | TB: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q3 1:55 | The Saints converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 29% expected | +5% NO | NO: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Drew Brees (NO QB), out, replaced by t.bridgewater · 0.7 pts
- Trey Hendrickson (NO DE), out · 0.6 pts
- Breshad Perriman (TB WR), out · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Buccaneers 4% · Saints 96%
- Final margin
- Saints by 7
- Luck in points
- 4.7 for the Buccaneers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Saints by 11.7
- Replay with same day's form
- Buccaneers 15% · Saints 85% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 5 2019 games ·
Buccaneers ·
Saints
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