Week 9 2019 · November 3, 2019
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Titans at Panthers, Week 9 2019: who deserved to win?
The Panthers beat the Titans 30–20, but the replays call it close to a coin flip: with the way both teams played, the Panthers win 5 of 10. Luck ran their way: kicks alone were worth 13 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Before kickoff the Panthers were 60% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 9:47 left): R. Succop missed a 43-yard field goal, worth 13 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Final
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Replay with same day's form
Luck index +54 Panthers lucky · −54 Titans
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Titans win 5, Panthers win 5.
- 1 TEN 51 CAR 23
- 2 TEN 42 CAR 24
- 3 TEN 49 CAR 37
- 4 TEN 27 CAR 20
- 5 TEN 27 CAR 24
- 6 TEN 15 CAR 17
- 7 TEN 19 CAR 23
- 8 TEN 10 CAR 19
- 9 TEN 20 CAR 33
- 10 TEN 13 CAR 36
Your call
Did the Panthers earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Titans win 54% of them, Panthers 46%, counting the 4% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Panthers by 10.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Titans by 17+ | 14.4% |
| Titans by 9–16 | 15.2% |
| Titans by 1–8 | 20.4% |
| Level after regulation | 4.4% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 20.5% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 14.2% |
| Panthers by 17+ | 10.8% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- R. Succop, 43 yds missed · 84% expected
- J. Slye, 35 yds made · 93% expected
- R. Succop, 56 yds missed · 64% expected
- J. Slye, 49 yds missed · 72% expected
- R. Succop, 44 yds missed · 82% expected
- Extra point missed · 94% expected
Penalties: Titans 11 for 99 yards, Panthers 6 for 77 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 12:02 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Panthers (James Bradberry), 42 yards | +10% TEN +2.9 pts |
| Q1 8:24 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Titans (Kenny Vaccaro), 5 yards, wiping out the play | +12% CAR +3.7 pts |
| Q1 6:49 | Offensive Holding on the Titans, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +6% CAR +2.5 pts |
| Q1 6:49 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the Panthers (Gerald McCoy), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% TEN +0.6 pts |
| Q1 6:26 | Face Mask on the Titans, 10 yards | +2% CAR +0.8 pts |
| Q1 5:40 | Face Mask on the Titans, 13 yards, wiping out the play | +5% CAR +2.3 pts |
| Q2 13:28 | False Start on the Titans, 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% CAR +0.6 pts |
| Q2 11:58 | Defensive Offside on the Panthers (Marquis Haynes), 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% TEN +0.9 pts |
| Q2 9:58 | Face Mask on the Titans (Corey Davis), 15 yards | +3% CAR +1.4 pts |
| Q2 7:16 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards | +1% TEN +0.9 pts |
| Q3 11:51 | False Start on the Titans (A.J. Brown), 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% CAR +0.7 pts |
| Q3 7:02 | Defensive Offside on the Titans (Kenny Vaccaro), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% CAR +0.3 pts |
| Q3 6:05 | Defensive Offside on the Titans (Kamalei Correa), 6 yards · pre-snap | 0% CAR +0.7 pts |
| Q3 5:16 | Offensive Holding on the Titans, 10 yards | +1% CAR +0.9 pts |
| Q4 12:12 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +6% TEN +3.0 pts |
| Q4 10:23 | Lowering the Head to Initiate Contact on the Titans, 15 yards | +1% CAR +1.4 pts |
| Q4 2:04 | Defensive Holding on the Panthers (Luke Kuechly), 5 yards | 0% CAR +0.2 pts |
Titans penalties, every game · Panthers penalties, every game · All teams, 2019
When it happened
Panthers’ chance of winning
As low as 40% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 14:18 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 31% expected | +8% CAR | CAR: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 12:02 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Panthers (James Bradberry), 42 yardsJudgment calls · 1 flag in 549 snaps before, position avg 1 per 199 | +10% TEN | TEN: Missed field goal |
| 3 | Q1 9:47 | R. Succop missed a 43-yard field goalKicks · 84% expected for him | +13% CAR | TEN: Punt |
| 4 | Q1 8:24 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Titans (Kenny Vaccaro), 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 0 flags in 566 snaps before, position avg 1 per 441 | +12% CAR | CAR: Turnover |
| 5 | Q1 2:35 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 34% expected | +8% CAR | CAR: Field goal |
| 6 | Q2 11:36 | The Titans fumbled and the Panthers recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +7% CAR | TEN: Turnover |
| 7 | Q2 8:10 | The Panthers converted 4th & 23rd & 4th downs · 52% expected | +6% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q4 12:12 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +6% TEN | TEN: Turnover |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Kawann Short (CAR DE), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Greg Little (CAR T), out · 0.3 pts
- Mario Addison (CAR LB), out · 0.2 pts
- Jurrell Casey (TEN DT), out · 0.7 pts
- Ben Jones (TEN C), out · 0.6 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Titans 68% · Panthers 32%
- Final margin
- Panthers by 10
- Luck in points
- 12.9 for the Panthers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Titans by 2.9
- Replay with same day's form
- Titans 54% · Panthers 46% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
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