Week 12 2023 · November 26, 2023
Chiefs at Raiders, Week 12 2023: who deserved to win?
The Chiefs beat the Raiders 31–17, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Chiefs win 8 of 10. The Raiders had the bounces: judgment calls alone were worth 5.0 points to the Raiders.
Before kickoff the Chiefs were 75% favorites. The biggest swing (Q3, 4:08 left): the Raiders converted 3rd & 4, worth 11 points of win probability to the Raiders.
Final
| 31 | |
| 17 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +18 Chiefs about even · −18 Raiders
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Chiefs win 8, Raiders win 2.
- 1 KC 41 LV 13
- 2 KC 38 LV 17
- 3 KC 37 LV 20
- 4 KC 25 LV 10
- 5 KC 24 LV 13
- 6 KC 20 LV 12
- 7 KC 17 LV 13
- 8 KC 34 LV 31
- 9 KC 24 LV 27
- 10 KC 13 LV 25
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Chiefs win 82% of them, Raiders 18%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Chiefs by 14.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Chiefs by 17+ | 32.1% |
| Chiefs by 9–16 | 21.6% |
| Chiefs by 1–8 | 26.4% |
| Level after regulation | 2.4% |
| Raiders by 1–8 | 10.7% |
| Raiders by 9–16 | 5.3% |
| Raiders by 17+ | 1.5% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Chiefs by 14. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Chiefs by 13.2.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- D. Carlson, 30 yds missed · 97% expected
- D. Carlson, 34 yds made · 95% expected
- H. Butker, 32 yds made · 97% expected
When it happened
Raiders’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 86%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:37 | The Raiders converted 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 58% expected | +8% LV | LV: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q1 9:38 | The Raiders converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 39% expected | +7% LV | LV: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 7:23 | The Raiders converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 35% expected | +6% LV | LV: Missed field goal |
| 4 | Q1 0:35 | D. Carlson missed 30-yard field goalKicks · 97% expected for him | +8% KC | LV: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q3 7:03 | The Chiefs were stopped on 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 35% expected | +6% LV | KC: Punt |
| 6 | Q3 4:08 | The Raiders converted 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 44% expected | +11% LV | LV: Field goal |
| 7 | Q3 0:13 | Offensive Holding on the Chiefs, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +9% LV | LV: Punt |
| 8 | Q4 13:48 | The Chiefs converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 41% expected | +10% KC | KC: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Brian Hoyer (LV QB), out, replaced by a.o'connell · 1.8 pts
- Nick Bolton (KC LB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Chiefs 100% · Raiders 0%
- Final margin
- Chiefs by 14
- Luck in points
- 0.8 for the Chiefs
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Chiefs by 13.2
- Replay with same day's form
- Chiefs 82% · Raiders 18% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 12 2023 games ·
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