Week 12 2023 · November 26, 2023
Patriots at Giants, Week 12 2023: who deserved to win?
The Giants beat the Patriots 10–7, but the Patriots played well enough to win it: they take 6 of 10 replays with the same day's form. Luck ran their way: kicks alone were worth 4.3 points to the Giants.
Before kickoff the Patriots were 63% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 4:39 left): the Patriots were stopped on 3rd & 4, worth 29 points of win probability to the Giants.
Final
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Replay with same day's form
Luck index +62 Giants very lucky · −62 Patriots
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Patriots win 6, Giants win 4.
- 1 NE 29 NYG 7
- 2 NE 16 NYG 0
- 3 NE 19 NYG 6
- 4 NE 12 NYG 3
- 5 NE 15 NYG 10
- 6 NE 12 NYG 10
- 7 NE 6 NYG 8
- 8 NE 10 NYG 16
- 9 NE 7 NYG 18
- 10 NE 6 NYG 23
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Patriots win 62% of them, Giants 38%, counting the 3% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Giants by 3.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Patriots by 17+ | 13.4% |
| Patriots by 9–16 | 19.0% |
| Patriots by 1–8 | 27.3% |
| Level after regulation | 2.9% |
| Giants by 1–8 | 20.2% |
| Giants by 9–16 | 13.2% |
| Giants by 17+ | 4.0% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Giants by 3. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Giants by 10.9.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- R. Bullock, 42 yds made · 84% expected
- C. Ryland, 35 yds missed · 92% expected
When it happened
Giants’ chance of winning
As low as 38% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 5:56 | The Patriots converted 3rd & 153rd & 4th downs · 16% expected | +13% NE | NE: Turnover |
| 2 | Q2 4:39 | The Patriots were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 40% expectedThe Patriots threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 45% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +29% NYG | NE: Punt |
| 3 | Q2 2:00 | The Giants converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 23% expected | +9% NYG | NYG: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q3 6:40 | The Giants converted 3rd & 163rd & 4th downs · 17% expected | +15% NYG | NYG: Punt |
| 5 | Q4 8:13 | R. Bullock made 42-yard field goalKicks · 84% expected for him | +9% NYG | NYG: Punt |
| 6 | Q4 4:04 | The Giants were stopped on 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 56% expected | +11% NE | NYG: Punt |
| 7 | Q4 1:58 | The Patriots converted 4th & 43rd & 4th downs · 40% expected | +15% NE | NE: Missed field goal |
| 8 | Q4 0:06 | C. Ryland missed 35-yard field goalKicks · 92% expected for himUnsportsmanlike Conduct on the Giants (Xavier McKinney), 12 yardsJudgment calls · 4 flags in 2915 snaps before, position avg 1 per 530 | +19% NYG | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Daniel Jones (NYG QB), out (IR), replaced by t.devito · 1.9 pts
- Evan Neal (NYG T), out · 0.7 pts
- Dexter Lawrence (NYG NT), out · 0.5 pts
- Darren Waller (NYG TE), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Graham Gano (NYG K), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Joshua Ezeudu (NYG G), out (IR) · 0.1 pts
- Christian Gonzalez (NE CB), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Kendrick Bourne (NE WR), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Vederian Lowe (NE T), out · 0.4 pts
- Matt Judon (NE LB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Patriots 10% · Giants 90%
- Final margin
- Giants by 3
- Luck in points
- 7.9 for the Patriots
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Giants by 10.9
- Replay with same day's form
- Patriots 62% · Giants 38% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 12 2023 games ·
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