Week 5 2023 · October 8, 2023
Bengals at Cardinals, Week 5 2023: who deserved to win?
The Bengals beat the Cardinals 34–20, and the replays lean their way: with the same day's form, they win 6 of 10.
Before kickoff the Bengals were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 1:30 left): Return touchdown by the Bengals, worth 27 points of win probability to the Bengals.
Final
| 34 | |
| 20 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +36 Bengals lucky · −36 Cardinals
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Bengals win 6, Cardinals win 4.
- 1 CIN 35 ARI 10
- 2 CIN 24 ARI 6
- 3 CIN 30 ARI 17
- 4 CIN 16 ARI 7
- 5 CIN 16 ARI 10
- 6 CIN 23 ARI 20
- 7 CIN 32 ARI 35
- 8 CIN 17 ARI 24
- 9 CIN 15 ARI 26
- 10 CIN 15 ARI 35
Your call
Did the Bengals earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Bengals win 64% of them, Cardinals 36%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Bengals by 14.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Bengals by 17+ | 19.3% |
| Bengals by 9–16 | 19.4% |
| Bengals by 1–8 | 23.6% |
| Level after regulation | 1.6% |
| Cardinals by 1–8 | 16.8% |
| Cardinals by 9–16 | 11.8% |
| Cardinals by 17+ | 7.6% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- E. McPherson, 40 yds made · 90% expected
- E. McPherson, 40 yds made · 90% expected
- Extra point missed · 94% expected
Penalties: Bengals 4 for 40 yards, Cardinals 2 for 16 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 13:28 | Player Out of Bounds on Kick on the Cardinals (Joey Blount), 5 yards | +1% CIN +0.3 pts |
| Q2 10:55 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Bengals (Devin Harper), 15 yards | +3% ARI +1.1 pts |
| Q2 0:01 | Delay of Game on the Bengals, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% ARI 0.0 pts |
| Q4 10:26 | Offensive Holding on the Bengals, 10 yards | +4% ARI +1.4 pts |
| Q4 8:38 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Cardinals (Kyzir White), 11 yards | +3% CIN +1.1 pts |
| Q4 6:58 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Bengals, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +3% ARI +3.3 pts |
Bengals penalties, every game · Cardinals penalties, every game · All teams, 2023
When it happened
Cardinals’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 69%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 12:30 | The Cardinals converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 29% expected | +6% ARI | ARI: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 7:19 | The Cardinals got away with an interception-worthy throwInterceptions · defenses catch 50% of interception-worthy throws | +6% ARI | ARI: Punt |
| 3 | Q2 3:16 | The Bengals converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 35% expected | +8% CIN | CIN: Turnover on downs |
| 4 | Q2 1:37 | The Bengals were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 71% expected | +11% ARI | CIN: Opp touchdown |
| 5 | Q2 1:30 | The Cardinals threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · defenses catch 50% of interception-worthy throwsReturn touchdown by the BengalsSpecial teams | +27% CIN | ARI: Punt |
| 6 | Q2 0:56 | The Bengals got away with an interception-worthy throwInterceptions · defenses catch 49% of interception-worthy throws | +7% CIN | CIN: Turnover on downs |
| 7 | Q3 2:28 | The Cardinals were stopped on 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 33% expected | +5% CIN | ARI: Turnover on downs |
| 8 | Q3 1:49 | The Cardinals were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 74% expected | +10% CIN | ARI: Turnover |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Budda Baker (ARI SS), out (IR) · 0.9 pts
- Jonathan Ledbetter (ARI DE), out · 0.4 pts
- Tee Higgins (CIN WR), out · 1.1 pts
- Chidobe Awuzie (CIN CB), out · 0.5 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Bengals 99% · Cardinals 1%
- Final margin
- Bengals by 14
- Luck in points
- 1.1 for the Bengals
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Bengals by 12.9
- Replay with same day's form
- Bengals 64% · Cardinals 36% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 5 2023 games ·
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