Week 5 2023 · October 8, 2023
Bengals at Cardinals, Week 5 2023: who deserved to win?
The Bengals beat the Cardinals 34–20 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 6 of 10. The Cardinals had the bounces: judgment calls alone were worth 4.4 points to the Cardinals.
Before kickoff the Bengals were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 1:30 left): Return touchdown by the Bengals, worth 27 points of win probability to the Bengals.
Final
| 34 | |
| 20 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +36 Bengals lucky · −36 Cardinals
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Bengals win 6, Cardinals win 4.
- 1 CIN 34 ARI 7
- 2 CIN 27 ARI 6
- 3 CIN 31 ARI 16
- 4 CIN 20 ARI 10
- 5 CIN 27 ARI 20
- 6 CIN 23 ARI 20
- 7 CIN 17 ARI 19
- 8 CIN 13 ARI 20
- 9 CIN 20 ARI 33
- 10 CIN 3 ARI 24
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Bengals win 64% of them, Cardinals 36%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Bengals by 14.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Bengals by 17+ | 20.4% |
| Bengals by 9–16 | 18.6% |
| Bengals by 1–8 | 24.2% |
| Level after regulation | 1.8% |
| Cardinals by 1–8 | 16.7% |
| Cardinals by 9–16 | 12.1% |
| Cardinals by 17+ | 6.2% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Bengals by 14. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Bengals by 14.8.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- E. McPherson, 40 yds made · 90% expected
- E. McPherson, 40 yds made · 90% expected
- Extra point missed · 93% expected
When it happened
Cardinals’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 69%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 12:30 | The Cardinals converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 27% expected | +8% ARI | ARI: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 7:19 | The Cardinals got away with an interception-worthy throwInterceptions · 48% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +6% ARI | ARI: Punt |
| 3 | Q2 3:16 | The Bengals converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 34% expected | +8% CIN | CIN: Turnover on downs |
| 4 | Q2 1:37 | The Bengals were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 69% expected | +11% ARI | CIN: Opp touchdown |
| 5 | Q2 1:30 | The Cardinals threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 48% expected to stay out of the defense's handsReturn touchdown by the BengalsSpecial teams | +27% CIN | ARI: Punt |
| 6 | Q2 0:56 | The Bengals got away with an interception-worthy throwInterceptions · 46% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +6% CIN | CIN: Turnover on downs |
| 7 | Q3 3:51 | The Bengals were stopped on 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 36% expectedThe Bengals threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 46% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +11% ARI | CIN: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q3 1:49 | The Cardinals were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 71% expected | +11% CIN | ARI: Turnover |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Budda Baker (ARI SS), out (IR) · 0.9 pts
- Jonathan Ledbetter (ARI DE), out · 0.4 pts
- Tee Higgins (CIN WR), out · 1.1 pts
- Chidobe Awuzie (CIN CB), out · 0.5 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Bengals 99% · Cardinals 1%
- Final margin
- Bengals by 14
- Luck in points
- 0.8 for the Cardinals
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Bengals by 14.8
- Replay with same day's form
- Bengals 64% · Cardinals 36% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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