Week 5 2023 · October 8, 2023
Giants at Dolphins, Week 5 2023: who deserved to win?
The Dolphins beat the Giants 31–16, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Dolphins win 10 of 10. The Giants had the bounces: fumble bounces alone were worth 3.1 points to the Giants.
Before kickoff the Dolphins were 82% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 1:55 left): Return touchdown by the Giants, worth 39 points of win probability to the Giants.
Final
| 16 | |
| 31 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index 0 Dolphins about even · 0 Giants
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Giants win 0, Dolphins win 10.
- 1 NYG 17 MIA 24
- 2 NYG 17 MIA 31
- 3 NYG 6 MIA 24
- 4 NYG 3 MIA 24
- 5 NYG 9 MIA 34
- 6 NYG 9 MIA 37
- 7 NYG 17 MIA 49
- 8 NYG 3 MIA 38
- 9 NYG 3 MIA 41
- 10 NYG 3 MIA 48
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Giants win 0% of them, Dolphins 100%. The line is what actually happened: Dolphins by 15.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Giants by 17+ | 0.0% |
| Giants by 9–16 | 0.0% |
| Giants by 1–8 | 0.1% |
| Level after regulation | 0.1% |
| Dolphins by 1–8 | 0.4% |
| Dolphins by 9–16 | 1.6% |
| Dolphins by 17+ | 97.9% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Dolphins by 15. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Dolphins by 16.9.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- G. Gano, 55 yds missed · 68% expected
- G. Gano, 49 yds made · 78% expected
- J. Sanders, 40 yds made · 86% expected
- G. Gano, 37 yds made · 92% expected
- G. Gano, 51 yds made · 74% expected
When it happened
Dolphins’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 0:44 | The Giants were stopped on 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 33% expected | +6% MIA | NYG: Missed field goal |
| 2 | Q2 15:00 | G. Gano missed 55-yard field goalKicks · 68% expected for him, 34 of 41 from 45+ before | +5% MIA | NYG: Punt |
| 3 | Q2 13:00 | The Dolphins fumbled and the Giants recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +5% NYG | MIA: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q2 5:22 | The Giants converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +5% NYG | NYG: Field goal |
| 5 | Q2 1:55 | The Dolphins were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 39% expectedThe Dolphins threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 41% expected to stay out of the defense's handsReturn touchdown by the GiantsSpecial teams | +39% NYG | MIA: Field goal |
| 6 | Q3 14:15 | The Dolphins converted 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 47% expectedTaunting on the Dolphins (Tyreek Hill), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 13 flags in 3943 snaps before, position avg 1 per 420 | +10% MIA | MIA: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q3 6:51 | The Dolphins were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 48% expectedThe Dolphins threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 41% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +11% NYG | MIA: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q3 5:37 | Offensive Holding on the Giants, 10 yardsJudgment calls | +4% MIA | MIA: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Terron Armstead (MIA T), out (IR) · 0.9 pts
- Jaelan Phillips (MIA LB), out · 0.3 pts
- Keion Crossen (MIA CB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Robert Jones (MIA G), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Andrew Thomas (NYG T), out · 0.8 pts
- Saquon Barkley (NYG RB), out · 0.5 pts
- John Michael Schmitz (NYG C), out · 0.4 pts
- Jarrad Davis (NYG LB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Micah McFadden (NYG LB), out · 0.2 pts
- Shane Lemieux (NYG G), out · 0.1 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Giants 0% · Dolphins 100%
- Final margin
- Dolphins by 15
- Luck in points
- 1.9 for the Giants
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Dolphins by 16.9
- Replay with same day's form
- Giants 0% · Dolphins 100% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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