Week 3 2019 · September 22, 2019
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Panthers at Cardinals, Week 3 2019: who deserved to win?
The Panthers beat the Cardinals 38–20, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Panthers win 9 of 10.
An off day for the Cardinals: their defense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Panthers they would win 47% of the time; with this day’s form, 11%. The numbers
Before kickoff the Cardinals were 57% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 10:55 left): the Panthers were stopped on 3rd & 5, worth 22 points of win probability to the Cardinals.
Final
| 38 | |
| 20 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +11 Panthers about even · −11 Cardinals
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Panthers win 9, Cardinals win 1.
- 1 CAR 40 ARI 10
- 2 CAR 41 ARI 17
- 3 CAR 31 ARI 12
- 4 CAR 33 ARI 17
- 5 CAR 20 ARI 6
- 6 CAR 23 ARI 13
- 7 CAR 31 ARI 23
- 8 CAR 23 ARI 17
- 9 CAR 31 ARI 28
- 10 CAR 14 ARI 20
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
An off day for the Cardinals
Their defense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Panthers they would win 47% of the time; with this day’s form, 11%.
Same teams, fresh game
Replay with same day's form
36 points apart for the Cardinals: the gap is how differently this game went from what the two teams usually are.
| Unit | This game | Usual level | Better or worse than usual |
|---|---|---|---|
| Panthers offenseEPA per play gained | +0.63 | +0.12 | better by 0.51 |
| Panthers defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.17 | +0.13 | worse by 0.04 |
| Cardinals offenseEPA per play gained | +0.17 | −0.01 | better by 0.18 |
| Cardinals defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.63 | +0.13 | worse by 0.50 |
EPA (expected points added) per play on competitive snaps, turnovers left out because they are valued as luck. Usual level: the team’s earlier games this season plus half of last season, pulled toward the league average. One team’s defense and the other team’s offense are the same snaps, so one game can’t fully say whose day it was; it shows how far this one was from both teams’ norms.
How 4,000 replays ended
Panthers win 89% of them, Cardinals 11%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Panthers by 18.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Panthers by 17+ | 45.3% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 23.0% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 19.1% |
| Level after regulation | 1.7% |
| Cardinals by 1–8 | 7.7% |
| Cardinals by 9–16 | 2.5% |
| Cardinals by 17+ | 0.7% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Panthers by 18. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Panthers by 19.5.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- Z. Gonzalez, 34 yds made · 95% expected
- Z. Gonzalez, 47 yds made · 79% expected
- J. Slye, 36 yds made · 93% expected
When it happened
Cardinals’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 76%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 10:55 | The Panthers were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 43% expectedThe Panthers fumbled and the Cardinals recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +22% ARI | CAR: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 14:15 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 35% expected | +7% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 12:51 | The Cardinals converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 30% expected | +5% ARI | ARI: Punt |
| 4 | Q2 4:24 | Face Mask on the Panthers (Tre Boston), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 0 flags in 136 snaps before, position avg 1 per 465 | +7% ARI | ARI: Field goal |
| 5 | Q3 14:43 | Offensive Holding on the Cardinals, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +5% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q3 12:03 | The Cardinals converted 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 73% expected | +6% ARI | ARI: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q3 4:34 | The Cardinals converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 72% expected | +7% ARI | ARI: Field goal |
| 8 | Q3 2:52 | Z. Gonzalez made 47-yard field goalKicks · 79% expected for him, 0 of 0 from 45+ before | +5% ARI | ARI: Turnover |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Kawann Short (CAR DE), out · 0.6 pts
- Kawann Short (CAR DT), out · 0.4 pts
- Graham Gano (CAR K), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Panthers 100% · Cardinals 0%
- Final margin
- Panthers by 18
- Luck in points
- 1.5 for the Cardinals
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Panthers by 19.5
- Replay with same day's form
- Panthers 89% · Cardinals 11% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
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