Week 8 2020 · November 1, 2020
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
49ers at Seahawks, Week 8 2020: who deserved to win?
The Seahawks beat the 49ers 37–27, but it was a coin flip: replayed with the way both teams played, the Seahawks win 6 of 10. Luck ran their way: 3rd & 4th downs alone were worth 2.6 points to the Seahawks.
Before kickoff it was a pick’em. The biggest swing (Q1, 4:13 left): the 49ers were stopped on 3rd & 5, worth 14 points of win probability to the Seahawks.
Final
| 27 | |
| 37 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +41 Seahawks lucky · −41 49ers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. 49ers win 4, Seahawks win 6.
- 1 SF 42 SEA 21
- 2 SF 38 SEA 26
- 3 SF 30 SEA 24
- 4 SF 20 SEA 17
- 5 SF 35 SEA 37
- 6 SF 13 SEA 17
- 7 SF 16 SEA 24
- 8 SF 24 SEA 36
- 9 SF 23 SEA 41
- 10 SF 23 SEA 49
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
49ers win 41% of them, Seahawks 59%, counting the 3% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Seahawks by 10.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| 49ers by 17+ | 8.3% |
| 49ers by 9–16 | 12.2% |
| 49ers by 1–8 | 19.3% |
| Level after regulation | 2.7% |
| Seahawks by 1–8 | 25.4% |
| Seahawks by 9–16 | 16.6% |
| Seahawks by 17+ | 15.6% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Seahawks by 10. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Seahawks by 4.4.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- J. Myers, 48 yds made · 74% expected
- Extra point missed · 93% expected
When it happened
Seahawks’ chance of winning
As low as 38% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 11:12 | The 49ers were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 44% expected | +6% SEA | SF: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 9:38 | The Seahawks converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 40% expected | +7% SEA | SEA: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 4:13 | The 49ers were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 44% expected | +14% SEA | SF: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q2 11:30 | The 49ers converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 76% expected | +7% SF | SF: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q2 9:00 | The 49ers converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 32% expected | +6% SF | SF: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q2 7:03 | The 49ers converted 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 69% expected | +6% SF | SF: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q3 14:20 | The 49ers fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +7% SF | SF: Punt |
| 8 | Q3 13:44 | The 49ers were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 49% expected | +7% SEA | SF: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Shaquill Griffin (SEA CB), out · 0.7 pts
- Jamal Adams (SEA SS), out · 0.6 pts
- Mike Iupati (SEA G), out · 0.5 pts
- Benson Mayowa (SEA DE), out · 0.4 pts
- Chris Carson (SEA RB), out · 0.3 pts
- Bruce Irvin (SEA LB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Deebo Samuel (SF WR), out · 1.1 pts
- Nick Bosa (SF DE), out (IR) · 1.0 pts
- Ben Garland (SF OL), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Kwon Alexander (SF LB), out · 0.4 pts
- Jaquiski Tartt (SF S), out · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
49ers 14% · Seahawks 86%
- Final margin
- Seahawks by 10
- Luck in points
- 5.6 for the Seahawks
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Seahawks by 4.4
- Replay with same day's form
- 49ers 41% · Seahawks 59% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 8 2020 games ·
49ers ·
Seahawks
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