Week 4 2022 · October 2, 2022
Cardinals at Panthers, Week 4 2022: who deserved to win?
The Cardinals beat the Panthers 26–16, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Cardinals win 10 of 10. The Panthers had the bounces: judgment calls alone were worth 2.1 points to the Panthers.
An off day for the Panthers: their offense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Cardinals they would win 45% of the time; with this day’s form, 4%. The numbers
Before kickoff it was a pick’em. The biggest swing (Q2, 12:23 left): Return touchdown by the Panthers, worth 38 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Final
| 26 | |
| 16 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +4 Cardinals about even · −4 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Cardinals win 10, Panthers win 0.
- 1 ARI 38 CAR 3
- 2 ARI 47 CAR 17
- 3 ARI 27 CAR 3
- 4 ARI 31 CAR 10
- 5 ARI 36 CAR 17
- 6 ARI 30 CAR 14
- 7 ARI 19 CAR 6
- 8 ARI 20 CAR 10
- 9 ARI 23 CAR 17
- 10 ARI 13 CAR 10
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
An off day for the Panthers
Their offense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Cardinals they would win 45% of the time; with this day’s form, 4%.
Same teams, fresh game
Replay with same day's form
41 points apart for the Panthers: the gap is how differently this game went from what the two teams usually are.
| Unit | This game | Usual level | Better or worse than usual |
|---|---|---|---|
| Cardinals offenseEPA per play gained | +0.01 | +0.09 | worse by 0.08 |
| Cardinals defenseEPA per play allowed | −0.37 | +0.15 | better by 0.52 |
| Panthers offenseEPA per play gained | −0.37 | +0.04 | worse by 0.41 |
| Panthers defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.01 | +0.05 | better by 0.04 |
EPA (expected points added) per play on competitive snaps, turnovers left out because they are valued as luck. Usual level: the team’s earlier games this season plus half of last season, pulled toward the league average. One team’s defense and the other team’s offense are the same snaps, so one game can’t fully say whose day it was; it shows how far this one was from both teams’ norms.
How 4,000 replays ended
Cardinals win 96% of them, Panthers 4%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Cardinals by 10.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Cardinals by 17+ | 70.2% |
| Cardinals by 9–16 | 17.9% |
| Cardinals by 1–8 | 7.6% |
| Level after regulation | 0.8% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 2.8% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 0.6% |
| Panthers by 17+ | 0.2% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Cardinals by 10. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Cardinals by 10.6.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- M. Prater, 33 yds made · 93% expected
- E. Pineiro, 54 yds made · 65% expected
- M. Prater, 39 yds made · 87% expected
When it happened
Panthers’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 85%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 10:58 | The Panthers were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 69% expected | +10% ARI | CAR: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 7:31 | The Cardinals were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 67% expected | +13% CAR | ARI: Punt |
| 3 | Q2 12:23 | The Cardinals were stopped on 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 38% expectedThe Cardinals threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 46% expected to stay out of the defense's handsReturn touchdown by the PanthersSpecial teams | +38% CAR | ARI: Turnover on downs |
| 4 | Q2 1:12 | The Panthers were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 36% expectedThe Panthers threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 47% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +12% ARI | CAR: Field goal |
| 5 | Q3 9:17 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Panthers (C.J. Henderson), 37 yardsJudgment calls · 4 flags in 1055 snaps before, position avg 1 per 216 | +10% ARI | ARI: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q3 3:56 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Cardinals, 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +15% CAR | CAR: Turnover |
| 7 | Q4 11:26 | M. Prater made 39-yard field goalKicks · 87% expected for him | +10% ARI | ARI: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q4 11:17 | The Panthers were intercepted on a well-placed throwInterceptions · 0% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +11% ARI | CAR: Turnover on downs |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- A.J. Green (ARI WR), out · 1.0 pts
- Antoine Wesley (ARI WR), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Antonio Hamilton (ARI CB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Cardinals 85% · Panthers 15%
- Final margin
- Cardinals by 10
- Luck in points
- 0.6 for the Panthers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Cardinals by 10.6
- Replay with same day's form
- Cardinals 96% · Panthers 4% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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