Week 3 2024 · September 22, 2024
Packers at Titans, Week 3 2024: who deserved to win?
The Packers beat the Titans 30–14, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Packers win 9 of 10. The Titans had the bounces: injuries alone were worth 7.9 points to the Titans.
An off day for the Titans: their defense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Packers they would win 45% of the time; with this day’s form, 14%. The numbers
Before kickoff the Titans were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 0:58 left): Return touchdown by the Packers, worth 28 points of win probability to the Packers.
Final
| 30 | |
| 14 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +14 Packers about even · −14 Titans
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Packers win 9, Titans win 1.
- 1 GB 45 TEN 13
- 2 GB 37 TEN 14
- 3 GB 35 TEN 17
- 4 GB 27 TEN 13
- 5 GB 27 TEN 14
- 6 GB 16 TEN 7
- 7 GB 20 TEN 14
- 8 GB 24 TEN 20
- 9 GB 18 TEN 16
- 10 GB 10 TEN 15
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
An off day for the Titans
Their defense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Packers they would win 45% of the time; with this day’s form, 14%.
Same teams, fresh game
Replay with same day's form
31 points apart for the Titans: the gap is how differently this game went from what the two teams usually are.
| Unit | This game | Usual level | Better or worse than usual |
|---|---|---|---|
| Packers offenseEPA per play gained | +0.29 | +0.13 | better by 0.16 |
| Packers defenseEPA per play allowed | −0.00 | +0.09 | better by 0.10 |
| Titans offenseEPA per play gained | −0.00 | +0.04 | worse by 0.04 |
| Titans defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.29 | +0.05 | worse by 0.23 |
EPA (expected points added) per play on competitive snaps, turnovers left out because they are valued as luck. Usual level: the team’s earlier games this season plus half of last season, pulled toward the league average. One team’s defense and the other team’s offense are the same snaps, so one game can’t fully say whose day it was; it shows how far this one was from both teams’ norms.
How 4,000 replays ended
Packers win 86% of them, Titans 14%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Packers by 16.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Packers by 17+ | 40.3% |
| Packers by 9–16 | 24.0% |
| Packers by 1–8 | 21.3% |
| Level after regulation | 1.5% |
| Titans by 1–8 | 8.7% |
| Titans by 9–16 | 3.1% |
| Titans by 17+ | 1.2% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Packers by 16. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Packers by 24.4.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- B. Narveson, 21 yds made · 99% expected
- B. Narveson, 26 yds made · 98% expected
- B. Narveson, 47 yds made · 75% expected
When it happened
Titans’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 59%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:43 | The Packers converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 39% expected | +10% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q1 9:47 | The Titans converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 25% expected | +7% TEN | TEN: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 4:01 | The Packers converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +6% GB | GB: Field goal |
| 4 | Q1 1:10 | The Packers were stopped on 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 46% expectedJ. Reed dropped a catchable passDrops · 2 drops on 84 catchable balls before this | +7% TEN | GB: Field goal |
| 5 | Q1 1:08 | B. Narveson made 21-yard field goalKicks · 99% expected for him | +6% TEN | GB: Opp touchdown |
| 6 | Q1 0:58 | The Titans threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 47% expected to stay out of the defense's handsReturn touchdown by the PackersSpecial teams | +28% GB | TEN: Punt |
| 7 | Q2 4:37 | The Packers converted 3rd & 143rd & 4th downs · 24% expected | +6% GB | GB: Field goal |
| 8 | Q2 1:38 | The Packers converted 3rd & 183rd & 4th downs · 21% expected | +8% GB | GB: Field goal |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Jordan Love (GB QB), out, replaced by m.willis · 7.4 pts
- Carrington Valentine (GB CB), out · 0.5 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Packers 100% · Titans 0%
- Final margin
- Packers by 16
- Luck in points
- 8.4 for the Titans
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Packers by 24.4
- Replay with same day's form
- Packers 86% · Titans 14% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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